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  • Interesting Points...

    Very compelling post -- I'm inclined to agree with your conclusions, but want to hash this out a bit more with you.

    1.) With regard to paragraph three, was that CMS system in the root of the customer's domain? It would seem like a better-practice to place that in a sub-domain (e.g.,, and maintain control over the HTML contents of their root -- don't they have a public facing website? Or was your CMS system their public facing website?

    2.) Doesn't the same hold true for this blog? If you wanted to, you could make point to LiveJournal, and make be a page with a link to your blog, but with a
    By ext_129897 at 04:17 pm on 30th Oct 2008
    • Re: Interesting Points...

      Yes, the CMS system is the customer's main website. I glossed over some of the details in the interests of brevity, but my former employer was in the business of selling customers a website design and the tools necessary to build and maintain a website within it. The usual setup was that the domain's own A record and the record for www would both point at our systems, and our systems would redirect the former to the latter.

      I guess what you're indirectly proposing is that www would point at the CMS cluster and the domain itself would point at whatever server provides the first step of OpenID discovery and that could do a redirect (in some sense) to www. While I don't disagree that this could work, it's an extra complication and another thing that can go wrong. If the server at stops redirecting to for some reason, the customer's probably going to complain to the wrong provider.

      Also, some DNS providers -- including the one I host on, in fact -- will not allow www to point at something other than what the base domain points at. Now, I could easily do the DNS for that domain myself to avoid that limitation, but I'm trying to be pragmatic here and make this work for as many folks as possible. Once you get past the big email providers, companies and other organisations with their own domains are probably the next biggest group with email addresses, so it'd be a mistake not to give careful consideration to how we can make implementation as easy as possible for them.

      By Martin Atkins at 06:14 pm on 30th Oct 2008